"Football Canyon" - leod Man, sorry about suddenly sounding all defeatist at the end - there's a lot of video edited out of me trying to figure out how to get under the thing to get to the keyhole. I don't know if it's because I didn't play cave story, but it was not intuitive AT ALL for me to press down while in the draft! I dunno, every time I played mario hacks that have draft technology, pressing down didn't do anything - I was defeated by my experience playing the marios!! http://www.raocow.com http://talkhaus.raocow.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1853